How To Make Money Breeding Animals Albion Online

I have been going through the math of breeding and it looks like I am merely losing money no matter what I practise.

For example, to grow a T6 ox takes 275 plants and each plant costs virtually 330 silver = 90,750 silver. Plus it takes 30 bloodoak planks to brand the transport which cost one,500 10 30 = 45,000 argent plus it costs nearly 10,000 silver to craft the send. So, the total cost to make a T6 Transport Ox is 90k + 45k + 10k = 145k silver. Yet, the Ox's sell for only about 100k silver, and then the breeder is taking a thirty%+ loss on every ox. What is the logic here?

I have seen some ridiculous posts like "grow your own carrots" only that is not a reasonable suggestion. Each farming plot yields about 40 plants in the fourth dimension it takes to raise an Ox, so you would need nearly 7 plots only to feed one Ox. Also, if you were raising carrots, y'all make more money just selling the carrots considering the 275 plants it takes to feed the Ox can be sold for over 90k silver and that is pure profit. Yous don't have to buy 45k in bloodoak planks to sell carrots.

Nevertheless there are people selling Ox'due south for the apparently completely unprofitable price of 100k silver when it is clear from the math in a higher place yous would need to charge at to the lowest degree 150k to almost break even. So, who the heck are these people?

Is there some secret to raising ox's cheaply that I don't see?

If your finish to end math isn't adding up to profit, you need to take a closer look at the individual stages. A good outset would be to encounter what the going market price is for raised, unsaddled ox.

SirusX715 schrieb:

If your end to finish math isn't calculation upwards to profit, y'all demand to take a closer look at the private stages. A good start would be to come across what the going market price is for raised, unsaddled ox.

A Master's Ox is about 60k silver, then if you pay for planks and and crafting information technology is barely breakeven or losing money depending on what city you lot sell in. For case, right now T6 transports are 100k, so y'all would lose 10k on that.

And it costs 90k to heighten the ox, so if you sold it at the market rate, 60k, y'all would just lose 30k right off the bat.

What'southward the betoken of your analysis? I estimate the advantage is that you run into exactly HOW you are losing coin. Y'all are losing 30k creating the ox and losing another 10k changing the ox into the transport.

If you deceit empathize market prices, someone has more noesis than you do.

People may have islands for ages at present, they already paid their initial investment, they can take as many plots as they want, they have alts with focus or create them everyday, they tin can be buying the saddling materials from other towns cheaper and transporting them (or getting them from laborers), it tin can but exist undercuts from people that looted oxs, etc.

Yous take to exercise way more to empathise the market place than just exercise those basic maths.

Take besides into account that you become resources returned with focus, that would mean less planks needed. They tin can have associate rates and pay less fees than y'all do.

Information technology tin can even be some guild leader request people to spend their focus, who knows. Or someome is just power leveling ox breeding and selling tbem cheaper to go rid of them. Y'all gotta monitor a product for a while to see what is going on.

1 thing you can be sure of: those people are not losing coin.

oxes are profitable if yous raise your own crops to feed the ox, gather and refine your ain wood to saddle it.

or you can be an altoholic. i personally raise oxes and brand nothing just turn a profit, but i am a bigtime gatherer. sounds like raising animals without creating the crops, mats, etc is just costing you lot money.

It's disgusting... the more fourth dimension you lot have for managing islands and alts the more turn a profit y'all take. Some people simply craft, refine and manage laborers 24/7. Unfortunately it won't change any shortly or perchance even won't modify at all.

As someone who tin speak a piddling on this generally people raise animals while having access to multiple islands.

The golden rule of thumb is every 5 total farm islands = ane total isle of ox breeding. Now you practise demand a couple days for the oxen to mature from calfs to oxen. You lot then use the fourth dimension from calf to adult to constantly abound your carrots (Which most people who are experienced have their alts pour time into their focus farming for carrots and so that they can have consistent carrot farm drops every solar day.

So in short you basically kill the need to spend money on carrots or plants equally you telephone call it and every bit far as the calfs go thats just an investment you have to brand aforementioned as the islands themselves go. Merely at the finish of it all y'all only accept to pay for the planks to make the mount which if you only want a relaxing time of farming and raising cattle then merely get gather your own wood?

The price for the planks rn in Thetford is 1348 multiply that by 30 and your simply paying 40k. And thats just if your looking to purchase planks to use for the crafting of send ox.

Like the people above take said you actually have to invest in multiple islands to accept a chance in hell of competing with the bigshot sellers. Information technology is worth information technology in the end long as you can withstand the grind.

However, these planks still accept the aforementioned value as those on the market, the fact that you lot get together them yourself and refine does not hateful that they are cheaper or for free, they still have value as those on the market.

Why not harvest something, on what you earn more by selling and and then buy cheap carrots or beans from the market place, in the end it'south more advantageous than "own carrots".

@CassX Uh, I already said exactly what you said in my original post which DotZe obviously did not read or empathise. Maybe he just read the title of the postal service and got no further than that?

11. Februar 2021, 18:55

Is brood T6 Ox assisting? Yep. You will need 1 graphic symbol with high spec/focus to cover the 9 T6 Ox yous breed and 8 carrot subcontract plots. 1 loftier spec grapheme tin can cover most of the focus cost of this setup.

You lot start the calendar month down ~9.3m to cover the premium cost. Carrots and planks will cost yous nothing since you are growing your own carrots and farming your own planks.

Yous will need eight farm plots to comprehend 9 T6 ox. You lot need 621 carrots a mean solar day (1 T6 Ox is 69 a day). Y'all will need to use focus on all the carrot farms and T6 Ox to exist profitable.

Every 28 days, you will breed 63 T6 Ox, get about 4 actress T6 infant calf, and have 1800 carrot seeds to sell -

63 saddled T6 Ox sell at ~110k each = 7m full
4 baby calf sell at ~500k each = 2m total
1800 carrot seeds sell at ~1700 each = 3m total

Total = ~12m.

After premium, you would have fabricated roughly ~2.7m.

How does that compare to simply selling the mat costs -

90k in carrots and 45k in planks would be about 135k. A total of ~8.5m for 63 Ox.
63 saddled T6 Ox and 4 baby calf came out to about ~9m. It was more profitable considering you had 4 baby calves to sell. If you lot simply gained 3 extra baby calf you wouldn't have broke even.

If you lot decided to just do nine farm plots instead would come out to most ~10m a month. 45k in planks for 63 Ox comes out to about ~two.8m. Carrots+Seeds+Planks would be about ~12-13m a month.

Is breeding profitable? Yes, if you have the setup for information technology. Is it more profitable than the raw mats? All depends on how many T6 baby calves you go.

Annotation: - Adjusted seed profits since 10k focus wouldn't have covered ix plots even at max spec.

Yous don't need to gather your ain mats or abound your own feed. Similar you said, it would exist simpler to merely sell those components if that is where the profit came from. Where people are pulling "profit" from is premium bonuses and focus utilise.

CassX schrieb:

Notwithstanding, these planks even so have the same value every bit those on the market, the fact that you lot get together them yourself and refine does not mean that they are cheaper or for free, they still accept value as those on the market.

Why non harvest something, on what you earn more by selling and then buy cheap carrots or beans from the market, in the stop information technology's more than advantageous than "ain carrots".

Because he is wanting to make an bodily turn a profit... Why the hell wouldnt you just grow your ain carrots or beans and accept that account go that spec for focus and just waste money on ownership a subcontract food yous could accept grown for costless basically?

OVTSIDER schrieb:

It'due south disgusting... the more time you have for managing islands and alts the more profit you have. Some people merely arts and crafts, refine and manage laborers 24/7. Unfortunately information technology won't change whatever soon or maybe even won't change at all.

Let them exist. If they do that all they dont have fourth dimension to play the game.

Information technology is only pixels

RKOverdrive schrieb:

Because he is wanting to make an actual profit... Why the hell wouldnt y'all merely grow your ain carrots or beans and have that account get that spec for focus and just waste money on buying a farm food you could have grown for complimentary basically?

Considering when a person is talking almost "turn a profit", you tin't but pretend carrots are gratis when you grow them yourself. You need to use the market value for carrots, self grown or not, otherwise y'all are just making money growing carrots and pretending that you are making coin convenance oxen.

RKOverdrive schrieb:

CassX schrieb:

All the same, these planks all the same accept the aforementioned value as those on the market, the fact that you get together them yourself and refine does not hateful that they are cheaper or for free, they still accept value every bit those on the market place.

Why not harvest something, on what you lot earn more than past selling and and then buy inexpensive carrots or beans from the market, in the end it's more advantageous than "ain carrots".

Considering he is wanting to brand an actual turn a profit... Why the hell wouldnt yous but grow your own carrots or beans and take that account go that spec for focus and just waste money on buying a farm food you could have grown for free basically?

Everything has its value and price, if nosotros talk nigh harvesting with focus (this is in my stance maybe the worst fashion to deal with focus points (even if you have a max spec)), only even if we utilize focus, it is much better to harvest something that has a higher price on the market then purchase cheaper crops for feeding than to abound inexpensive ones, you practically lose silver.
(but yes, it depends where you lot are max spec, if you have max spec in carrots, it is clear that yous volition not harvest with the focus pumpkins ..)

But, if I accept another option where to utilize focus, and I know it volition earn more, why the hell would I use focus on the harvest?
Yep, the new thespian probably doesn't accept many variants, just fifty-fifty the average player afterwards a few months of playing certainly has other (and more than profitable) options for dealing with focus than focusing crops.

And if we talk about harvesting without focus, why would I harvest carrots when there are much more lucrative options for what to harvest, sell, earn, and buy cheaper crops for feeding, and still make money on information technology, than if I harvested carrots for feeding .. (without focus)

Piddle schrieb:

RKOverdrive schrieb:

Considering he is wanting to make an actual profit... Why the hell wouldnt you just grow your own carrots or beans and have that account become that spec for focus and just waste money on ownership a subcontract food y'all could have grown for free basically?

Considering when a person is talking most "profit", you can't just pretend carrots are free when you grow them yourself. You lot need to use the market value for carrots, self grown or not, otherwise you are just making coin growing carrots and pretending that yous are making money breeding oxen.

Ok simply Piddle I retrieve y'all on at the time I brought up just how many alts I have and almost all of them now have max focus on carrot farming. At THIS signal for ME the carrots are basically free equally I dont count them in my sales nor do I even sell them tbh... For the by couple months its just been me saving and stockpiling them up for when I desire to just practice another straight calendar week of oxen breeding or breeding in full general to power level.

CassX schrieb:

Everything has its value and price, if we talk about harvesting with focus (this is in my opinion peradventure the worst manner to deal with focus points (fifty-fifty if yous take a max spec)), simply even if we use focus, it is much meliorate to harvest something that has a higher price on the marketplace and then buy cheaper crops for feeding than to grow inexpensive ones, you practically lose silver.
(but yeah, it depends where you are max spec, if yous take max spec in carrots, it is clear that you will not harvest with the focus pumpkins ..)

Only, if I have another option where to use focus, and I know information technology volition earn more, why the hell would I utilize focus on the harvest?
Yes, the new actor probably doesn't have many variants, but even the average histrion after a few months of playing certainly has other (and more assisting) options for dealing with focus than focusing crops.

And if we talk almost harvesting without focus, why would I harvest carrots when at that place are much more lucrative options for what to harvest, sell, earn, and buy cheaper crops for feeding, and notwithstanding brand coin on it, than if I harvested carrots for feeding .. (without focus)

Well at that point you would basically take to buy the pumpkin seeds or the desired ingather your trying to sell and exist stuck wasting practically 9k focus PER PLOT per farm which sounds horrible! Unless yous have pre farmed spec already in which case thats all fine and groovy.

As far every bit my situation goes if you have enough alt accounts then the farming with focus is not a bad idea (Especially if your a solo player like me) Because with the level of alts farming carrots volition actually internet you alot of carrot seeds. Which (depending on the market obviously) makes me around 1.3-1.6M PER STACK of 999

If y'all harvest crops without focus then thats on you I would not want to run across anyone doing that xD Just a waste of time as well as fame and seed yield which also ways waste of argent...

RKOverdrive schrieb:

Ok but Piddle I retrieve you on at the time I brought up but how many alts I have and almost all of them now take max focus on carrot farming. At THIS indicate for ME the carrots are basically costless as I dont count them in my sales nor do I even sell them tbh... For the past couple months its merely been me saving and stockpiling them up for when I want to but do another straight week of oxen breeding or breeding in general to power level.

That's but not how any of this works. Yous spent your fourth dimension on growing and harvesting those carrots. If you aren't taking that into account, then your results will always be inaccurate. Doesn't matter that you feel like it's free to you. It'southward non free. Y'all are spending an hour or more of your life to grow carrots, and and so pretending your fourth dimension has no value.

What yous are saying with your "I feed my gratuitous carrots to my Ox, and and then I tin make coin on my Ox," is that if someone spends twice as much of their own time on convenance Oxen, first to abound carrots and so to feed them to an Ox, they can make some silver.

But, that misses the fact that if you lot merely spent time on growing carrots, and didn't raise an ox at all, so you'd often cease upwardly with MORE silver. So you are making silver growing carrots, so using that silver to ignore the losses y'all brand growing an Ox.

Which is fine if what yous want is Ox breeding fame, but not fine if what we are talking about is making silver by breeding oxen.

There have been a massive driblet in income for animal breeders over the last couple of months.
The reason for this is, the massive influx of resources from roads + labors.
Only the high end crafter with massive specs can make a decent income, so a lot of "semi" crafters have switched from crafting to animal convenance.

Base cost to produce a T5 horse or Ox is 310*89 = 27590 and it takes three days.
If you grew carrots for 3 days you would average yield 9x3x310 = 8370.
in guild to make the same profit for a T5 horse or Ox the selling price would be 35960.

The buy price according to albiononline2d.com is
Ox ~ 18k
Horse ~ 27k
In contrast a ride able version cost.
Ox ~ 47k
Horse ~ 57k
Resources needed to arts and crafts these.
Ox 30x T5 (26 in a city) planks where 1 plank = 850. Toll = 25500 22100+tax
Horse 20xT5 (17 in a city) leather where 1 leather = 1300. Cost = 26000 22100+tax

So the T5 ox would price 27590+25500 = 50090+revenue enhancement to 53590.

turn a profit = -3000 best case.

The equus caballus would be 27590+26000 = 49690+tax to 53590

All-time instance turn a profit 4900 to 7310 (based on tax 2400)

And dont forget there is four.five% revenue enhancement.

This is also with the use of 3x focus, to avoid loosing the animal, and over iii days !!!

Then ya it seems carrots win in this case

Happy Convenance folks

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